lol... Big mistake in the microwave! What I do if its still a bit frozen just put a bit of boiling water on it. You will get into a routine, I just get three out each night, and store them in a tuberware container, normally they are pretty defrosted in the morning. Good luck let me know how you are getting on with it. xxxxxxx

Thanks mandy i will thanks for the advice and help, i bought some frozen tripe just to see how they would get on but it was not quite thawed enough so i put it in the microwave - huge mistake!!! the house smelt awful. Cara woofed her down however bonny needed some encouragement though, many thanks once again maureen xx p.s. i will definately try this on my girls xx

Hi, no I just half the tube of meat in the morning and the other half in the evening for each dog, with a cup full of mixer food each feed. Dosen't look alot, but I think the meat is filling?! I think you would have to judge the amount of biscuits for each dog. Billy is huge 38kgs so he has a few more biscuits with his meat, and they still have treats in there kong when I go to work, but as I say they all look fab and healthy. Defo worth a try Mau. xxxx

Thanks mandy will go over in the week to find tpms, do you give them raw veg and cooked rice as well as the raw meat as this bit i find confusing or just the meat and mixer. mau xxxx

Hi Mau, Yes any one can order from them, or you can collect. They are on padgets lane, opposite the Arrow Valley.
Its not a very nice place, if you have a tickled stomach! I buy tripe and chicken they come in 1lb tubes. I buy the mixer dry food from them to, its about £10 for 15kg bag. I only use the mixer to bulk out the raw meat. They also deliver for free, if you order over £40 I think. Hope this helps. Its a great way to feed the Greys in a very inexpensive way, and they love it and look fab on it to. xx

hi mandy, i read you get your greys food from tpms and i have looked at their website and it says for trade, do you know would they consider me as i do not own a buisness and really do want to try the raw diet. many thanks maureen xxxx

Thank you Ruth the nyla bones have done the trick and appear to be Cara proof which is good lol

Hi zippy i have done a night shift so brain working slow at mo. So if i understand this right you give your greys raw meat? do you blend it wiith the raw veg too or just roughly chop it? do you give them offal too? do they have runny poos? how often wud you put a raw egg in their food? and with the bones do you give it as a meal or a treat? and wud they be raw chicken portions with bones in? sorry for so many questions as i have looked into it briefly today. mau's greys xxxxx

Nylabones are very very durable and long lasting..... Foxy still has his 6 years on! If you want me to get some from the warehouse, just let me know or they should be available from most pet shops.

Hope everyone had a lovely christmas, cara likes to chew in a big way some of the plastic toys she has destroyed, even tried her with a kong toy and to be honest that is heading the same way, any ideas to which toys cud be cara proof and safe please. xxxxxxxxx

It is official Cara is a cleptomanic!!!!!! and chewing hubbys shoes lol she is a brave girl and i love her sooooooooooooo much. Nothing is safe in the house lmfo hehehehe. Bonny is picking up on cara's tricks so my girls need some training me thinks lol. Never a dull moment with double trouble !!!! sorry i meant Bonny and Cara!!!!

I'm so pleased for you that sleeping is now much better. I know how dreadful those distrubed nights are!! Actually now my 2 are up stairs I feel happier, they were in the kitchen and I used to dread something awful like a fire happening - cos they nearly always start in kitchens - am I a worry wart or what!!!

hi maureen, glad that things have worked out with the sleeping arrangements, we have had ellie since feb this year and i was intending to not let her sleep upstairs in the bedroom, that only last one night! she sleeps next to our bed on her quilt and apart from the odd toilet break in the middle of the night ( not nice this time of year ! ) she sleeps all night and we all get a good nights sleep and some times a lie in if we are lucky. good luck. ann and ellie - may.xx

Hi Maureen ... there's nothing worse than no sleep is there :( Glad it worked for you all :) J x

Hi Maureen.. sooo glad this worked for you!!! It helped mine loads, they are fine when we are not in, but its different knowing you are in the house and they cant see you. i think it just depends on how people feel about having there hounds upstairs. Good girl Cara xxxxx

i would like to thank personally everyone for there advice about cara and her crying, it has done the trick! she has a bed in our bedroom so she can come and go as she feels. Sometimes it is just to see if we are there and then goes down stairs to bonny to sleep and othertimes shr sleeps in our room. I really can't thank you enough everyone now is getting a goods nights sleep. xxxxxxxxxx

Hi there, I had the same issue with my 2 almost 12 months ago, I tried everything everyone suggested, and in the end though I felt I was giving in, they came & slept in my bedroom - peace & quiet - bliss. After a few days we moved them onto the landing just outside our bedroom with the door open and then eventually the door was closed. We all get a good nights sleep now and just occasionally I have to get up to do a loo run in the night. Have you got a DAP plugged in too? They work soooo well. Best of luck to you.

Hi Maureen sorry if you already do some of this - I'm at work and need to be quick :) They usually settle fine if they're either in your bedroom with you or outside with a child gate and their beds but the gate stops them getting in (if you prefer them outside the room) but they can see you. You can teach climbing stairs - I use two large bath towels, one round the dogs chest and the other under their tum just in front of their back legs then tempt them upstairs and when you want them to come down put the towels round them and walk them down the stairs by picking up their back end and moving it down a step then doing the same to the front end - like a puppet, the long towels mean you can stay upright and safe too. You;ll soon find they are zoomingup and down stairs themselves ... Also check out their food - if its Burns that's great otherwise make sure its less than 20% protein and avoid anything with bright colours. I'd also make sure they were getting a good hours walk morning and night and a final wee walk about 10pm then they are more likely to settle and maybe some pasta in their last feed to give thema full tum and so like they will be tired :) Do use your training vouchers and bring them to one of our classes - if you're in Redditch we're at Immanuel Hall, Highters Heath Lane which isn't far from Junc 3 of the M42 every Saturday (not next week tho), just about every dog benefits from training which helps strengthen the bond between you and the dog, you can tire them out and have some fun :) Give me a ring if you ant to join us 0774 7754759 J xx

Hi Maureen, we had this when we had our scond, we found if we let them sleep upstairs with us, as they could see us this meant they didnt cry and bark, but just went straight back to sleep.... do you lock them in a room? it depends how you feel about having dogs upstairs, but we found once thy could see us they just settled sraight back down. xxx

ok sending out an sos can any give some advice please!!!!!! do not know what to do about the crying at night from at this present time i say bonny and hubby says cara. i have done the things ruth has suggested tablets, fleece coat, let out to do buisness 20 mins prior to us going to bed. have also let them out and not made eye contact for 1-2 mins but they think it is play time and not always do anything then when we let them back in and we are in bed the barking and crying starts, hubby is up at 5am and it is getting to him as no one in the house is getting much sleep. Please any advice would be gratefully recieved. maureen xxxx

Forgot to say, make sure the area where Cara is weeing is cleaned with a product that takes the smell out, because they will just keep marking the same spot. Try Simple solutions you can get it from pets at home, its about £5. Ruth recommends this. Also sold at the kennels. Hope this helps xxxx

Hi Mau, I have this problem with Fizz. She is walked and let out before we go to work. But still manages to squeeze a wee out. Not every day though. Ruth suggested to me, to put her in a fleece coat, to make her feel secure. We have a camera, and Fizz does not looked stressed at all. So its a bit of a mystery. Try the coat, and just do loads of praise when she does wee outside, and try and ignore her wee's in the kitchen! I know it's hard, but its all still brand new for her. Good luck! xxxx

hi need some advice, cara is weeing all over the kitchen, more so when i have to go out to work, she is left only a few hours with bonny and is let out for a wee prior to me leaving. any advice would be great. xx

Hi Mau, so pleased you sticking at it. Sounds like you are having fun! I still have problems with my girls, jealous over the toys and me. But we are working with it, would never ever send them back. They mean the world to me, and bring such joy into the house. You will get there, it's very early days. You also have Ruth to help you and people on the web site, they all have great ideas, and experiences. Pixie my first Grey, used to wee, every day without fail, but they soon stop. I know its a pain, but Cara will learn that its wrong. You made me laff asking Hubby for number three, they are very addictive though. Take care, always here if you need me. ( I live in Redditch) xxxxx

Hi Mandy well what can i say there is never a dull moment when cara or camacara as she is affectionally known by all the family is around. As you know we have had some teething problems with her but we are in it for long haul, she is slowly getting there she still cries sometimes when she can't see me, the tablets and coat have worked at nights. We had a couple of accidents in the house weeing in the kitchen. They have been growling at each other and arguing over beds and just walking past each other really and barking, but i know it is just them finding their feet together. I also know they do like each other because if bonny leaves the room then cara will get up and follow and vice a versa. Cara has worked out that if she pushes at the stair gate at the bottom of the stairs she can climb over it and come upstairs which in turns makes bonny start to cry as she can't climb the stairs, like i said never a dull moment in our house. However she is a very loving girl who loves her food and treats, oh and cuddles and kisses from my family i.e. my two children lol, when my mum comes round she always brings doggy treats and they love it! some issues we still need to address i.e. jumping up, trying to take food of the side and a few other things. I have never regreted bringing her home with us as my keira loves it when cara comes into my bedroom and lies down next to her with her head on her lap. xxxxxx

How you getting on Mau? Have things settled down now? Been thinking of you all. I must say the photo is lovely, the two girls go very well together. xxx

The class held on a Saturday is nearer to Redditch and not far from the motorway junction.
I am sure you will be welcome which ever class you decide to attend.

hope the little minx slept better she really is pretty and has a stunning face.

hope you and the princesses had a good night!! Love the photo too xx

thanks goldies mum x

Fantistic news hopefully tonight will be even better!! Lovely to have the update too, good luck xx

Thanks to everyone for the encouaging words i am in for the long hall with cara she is going no where but staying with us she is one of my baby's!!!!,she is being a little minx lol, last night was better thanks to ruth's advice, ruth i love you lol! xxxxx both went for a wee at 3.30, got a nuzzle attack made a huge mistake by giving them some attention as i left the room cara started to cry so i done what ruth told me to do give no eye contact and take straight outside and turn my back for 1-2 mins then let back in had to do several times and i was back in bed 20mins later so a better night. I will be bringing both Bonny and cara to one of the trainning classes j as i feel they both will benefit from it, will proberly come to moseley as out of all of them that is the nearest to redditch. Enquired about getting both my princesses a pet passport so we can take them to spain next year. Will keep you all posted about my princess bonny and cara thanks once again such great support thank you from maureen, bonny and cara xxxx

hope you had a better night, she's so beautiful, i'm sure you'll get there. xxx

Hope its going ok? Did you get a better nights sleep?

Hiya Why don't you take her to one of our training classes? Is she being manic? J xx

Oh no :( Hope things get better soon for all of you, its a big change for her but I'm sure she will settle soon. xx

Had a really bad night with cara had to phone ruth for some advice today, lets hope it works

it's official madness has desended here lol! bonny and cara when we arrived home well lets just say nothing and no one was safe. running through the house, chasing each other round the garden, Cara has chosen the bed under the stairs eaten their evening meal together even though if cara could have she would have eaten bonny's as well, going to take them for their walk so will up date later xxxx

She is a very pretty girl. Hope all goes well. xxx

Hi Bonny's mommy. Let me know how you get on with your new baby! thinking of you today. Woohooo excited!!

i believe in fate and that my cara was meant to come home with us and talking to mandy on saturday just confirmed what i felt the first time i saw cara, bonny will love having her around for company. My girls keep asking when is cara coming home i can't wait till wednesday when i come to collect her with bonny too. She will have lovely walks and treated like a princess as bonny is already. Loads of cuddles and kisses as standard lol. see you on wednesday princess cara xxxxxxxxxx

So happy ur going to live with bonnie cara! Xxxxxxxxx

Finally lovely Cara xxxx be happy in your home xxxxxx

way to go Cara, you will have a lovely time in your new home :-) xxxx

This little lady is really going to enjoy life outside of a kennel she loves being out and about and clearly hates being cofined to her kennel.She is so pretty as well.

Awww best news ever!!! I can sleep tonight now! Been sooo worried about this little one xxxxx

Does this mean this little princess is reserved? Xxxx

Fanstastic!!!! soooooooooo pleased. Iam sure you will not be dissapointed, as I said two, ( or three or four) will be great company. Cara looks so sweet, Bonnie will love her. xxxx

We have met her and she is so sweet xxxxx

to the lady who i met outside pets at home today mandy i think you are a bad influence and will be winging my way to daybreaks to take home a certain little girl if ruth can reserve her for me please xxxxxxxx

baby girl to hell with it i am coming for you this week daddy will just have to lump it! xxxxxx i think about you every day and bonny got on really well with you xxxxx

Please please please someone adopt this gorgeous little girl, she so desperately craves a loving home.

she's such a gorgeous girl who just needs love and a big cuddle xxxx

she looks so sweet xxxx

Gorgeous new photo of Cara - she has such a beautiful face. She should have been snapped up ages ago, but hopefully soon will be :)

Poor little girl xxx really hope a home turns up quickly for her xxxxx

I am so sad to hear this, poor Cara, as you say Ruth she is so unhappy in the kennels but such a lovely girl, I hope someone homes her very soon, couldnt she be fostered?.

Oh noooo!! Poor poor cara. I really thought this was her lucky break! So sad xxxxxxx

Sadly, Cara has been unreserved as the family feel they are not ready to adopt just yet. I am so gutted for Cara as she is so very unhappy 'behind bars' and so happy out of her kennel.... I thought this was the chance she was waiting for but it is not meant to be this time.

So so happy for cara. So stressed at the kennels. Well done princess x x x x x

Well done Cara xxx glad to see you reserved xxxx

cara i still wish i could bring you home with me as i fell in love with you if hubby does not say yes soon i just going to have to come and get you and bring you home xxxxxxxx

Had a lovely cuddle with Cara today. She is so gorgeous, hope you find your forever home soon. xxxx

Cara is such a sweetheart, she so deserves a forever home.

Cara is still at the kennels - she is such a pretty dog. I don't think I'm allowed to come to the kennels until she has been rehomed!!! xx

Looks a bit like a border collie

I am thinking about Cara tonight and hoping she is ok in the kennel with Ronnie, she has been quite noisy today, she so desperately needs a loving home and some attention, I hope someone chooses her soon.
Am also thinking about all the other babies at the kennels and hoping they are not upset as there is a lot of fireworks going off tonight. xx

still working on hubby for you to come home with us

She was very noisy this morning wanting all the attention

omg shes so lovelyyyyy xxxxx

She looks a real poppet xxxx Is she a none racer ? xxxx

wheres the picture?